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This webinar will be uploaded and posted on our website in the future.

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In addition, we ask that people do not take words without raising their hands.

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There is a chat here, and in addition, there is also

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a link to a web-scheme where you can ask questions.

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You can see more about the questions during the webinar.

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The web-scheme we will gladly receive feedback if anyone wants to send something in the application.

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So then I thought we could have a little presentation round of us gathered here from the university.

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My name is Dagfinn Werkshager, and I am the head of the research, communication and education department here at the IT department, which is responsible for GPT-view.

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Hi, my name is Anne Werkshager.

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I am the head of the department in Dagfinn's department, which is called Advanced User Contact.

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My name is Magnus Nygaard, and I work as a developer here.

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My name is Omid, and I am the head of the Institute for Informatics.

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I'm Tor Magne Kipflund, and I'm also a developer, along with Magnus.

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I'm Katrine Nordheide-Keipa, and I worked as a designer with GPT-UI.

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And I'm Fugli, section leader in app development.

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So, we can just take a little recap of why we created GPT-UIO.

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GPT-UIO was developed a year ago, and the University of Oslo said that it was forbidden to use chat GPT in teaching, or to assign students to use it.

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It was not allowed to share personal data, or...

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We saw some challenges with ChatGPT, which we said we didn't want people to use.

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The biggest challenge was that we didn't get a proper agreement at the time.

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We discovered some errors in the universal format in the content that was released.

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And the biggest problem was that we didn't have control over our data.

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We didn't know where our data was stored or processed.

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That's why we thought it wasn't okay.

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So we put up GPT-UIO, where you have more control over the data.

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GPT-UIO is a web frontend for other GPT models.

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So far, we've only used the models we get from Azure.

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Our service is available to everyone who has an agreement with Microsoft Azure and buys this frontend.

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In our GPT solution, we store all the prompts that are sent in.

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They are stored in our database, and we identify these so that Microsoft or the subcontractors cannot know who has sent what.

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And in that way, we have

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control over the large amount of data we have.

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In addition, we can control the part of Microsoft that is where the data is stored, how long they are stored and so on.

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Today, how many others use GPT-UIO?

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Is it 10 institutions?

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Yes, it is 10-12 external institutions.

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Then they also have to set up GPT-UIO to go towards their Azure, so that it controls the backend itself.

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And we would like to tell you a little about the pieces that we have now further developed in 2024 at GPT-UIO.

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It was quite similar to GPT in the beginning, and it is now starting to be divided.

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So, I wonder if you want to start showing something, Paul?

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Yes, I can.

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I can also say that Microsoft has been in contact with us too, because they say that we are the only ones they know about in Europe who have made such a solution.

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That is, a solution where we have such a rich borderline, and we provide long-term storage of the discussions we have most of the time.

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And it is designed so that the discussions should have a value and can be downloaded and shared, so that we know that it is a little unique what we have done here.

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So we can also mention that we

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was one of the first higher education institutions in Europe- to offer a chat GPT-like application- to all employees and students who are GDPR-friendly.

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We are proud of that.

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Let's talk about our first year of use.

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Do we have any statistics on how many users we have?

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Yes, we do.

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Now, per day, we have almost ten million messages, divided by almost one million calls.

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That's a lot.

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And... Yes, exactly how many people use it.

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I can't remember, but I can find out.

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We saw that this has been one of the fastest growing publications we have had on IT-avd.

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It never went from 0 to 12-14,000 users in a few months.

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Or a few weeks, actually.

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So that was very fun.

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We have had a uniform increase in use.

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So having a reasonable load balance has been an essential part of the service.

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When we talk to employees, we see that this is what people use.

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People use it in different ways, such as cleaning data, or finding commands and codes in economic systems.

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It's very different, but people use it in their work every day.

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We have received feedback that people

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who think this is very effective.

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Was it someone who said it was four times faster?

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There are some projects that indicate that they have increased productivity by four times.

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When we see that some key people in our organization experience that type of productivity, we think that is the cost for us.

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And then...

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There was a lot of literature about using AI, and one of the sources is to see this as a generative AI, as an assistant.

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An assistant for boosting productivity, learning, coding, creativity and so on.

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More like an assistant.

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Early in the autumn semester, we launched GPT-4 Omni, or GPT-4O.

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It is much faster and more responsive than the previous GPT-4.

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And then we started with GPT-3-5, and then we went to GPT-3-5 Turbo, and then we took GPT-4.

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That's right.

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So GPT-4 is the newest, most advanced model we offer.

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And that's important for those who use our solutions from other institutions.

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They have to activate this themselves in Microsoft's Azure.

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We have seen that some have been a bit slow, but we have to be a bit better at informing others about how they should set up and follow up on the new things that are coming.

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Omni has also recommended models in the service, so we have set it as standard.

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When you choose a new conversation, then it is KBT 4 Omni that is... But Marfonel is 3.5 Turbo for the 4?

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Yes, we have that, so it is still possible to choose earlier models.

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The idea is that we will phase out KBT 4 Turbo and replace it with 4 Mini.

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Oh yes.

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It is...

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It's good for small and everyday tasks.

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It's fast and responsive.

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We also see that the 4 Omni model is much more cost-effective than GPT-4.

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That's a good reason to have it as a standard.

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We can show you around.

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Since we are talking about costs, we have seen an increase in the amount of data you can line up.

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How much data do you allow to be lined up now?

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Now we allow for GPT-4 Omni, the difference in the different models, to the maximum limit of 128,000 tokens.

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som tillsvarar, icke helt, men som väldigt grått sett 180 000 tegn, altså texttegn.

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It's enough.

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It's typically an article, but not a book.

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And what we saw was that some of the increase we got in consumption was due to the fact that we sent a lot of data when people kept chatting.

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So we made a small change to try to make it more effective.

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But that's not what we're going to spend all our money on.

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Then we have light and dark mode, preferences.

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That is the most popular feature we have made, dark mode.

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It came very quickly that students wanted dark mode, and we have started to implement it on other services as well, because it is quite comfortable with dark mode.

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A new function this autumn is adapted instructions that can be shared.

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The new thing is that they can be shared.

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Custom Instruction, or so-called System Prompt, can now be shared with other users of GPT-VO.

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This is a way to give the model a specific approach.

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Do you want it to give you a type of answer, or answer in a special way?

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What we saw was that lecturers used a division of instructions in Canvas, the other learning solutions we had.

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In the beginning, we allowed quite small instructions.

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Now we have increased the number of signs there, so we saw that lecturers, especially in teaching, this was...

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quite actively used.

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And I remember I found at the university, the Faculty of Engineering, there was an instruction that said that teachers should train themselves to talk to shy parents about a problematic child.

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I remember I glued it in, and then I tried to start a conversation.

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I said, I have something I want to talk about your child.

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And then I got a shiver back, and a very bad mood, because it was

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There was a pregnant parent in the GPT on that instruction, and they separated out the school system.

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I tried a little, but I didn't find this.

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It's a bit funny that they can use it for that kind of training.

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Then you know that it is used for medicine, among other things, for studies.

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Paul, can you switch to light mode now while you show?

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I can.

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Is it better?

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I think it's easier to see.

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That was a question.

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Yes, let's do that.

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Here we have a long instruction that you have made, or that others have found.

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Yes, I have found this one, just as a simple example.

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Teachers now have the opportunity to create their own specialized simulations, or something else, that they can then share with students.

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So that is done quite simply by copying a link,

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And then other users can choose to subscribe to this instruction.

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So when it's updated here, when the teacher updates it, all students will get it updated?

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Yes, correct.

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And then you also see in the menu here that those I subscribe to have their own icon, right?

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And those I have shared have another icon.

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So this one called Latex Matte,

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Have I shared it?

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I think so.

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Yes, correct.

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And I also subscribe to one from Magnus.

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You can just show how it looks when you're going to... You can go to the later format.

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You can just show how it looks.

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When someone has made it for you.

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It's under... It's under, because then you've got a new conversation with the instructions, yes.

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Yes.

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So then you have the opportunity to copy it and make your own, and edit that instruction, because otherwise you wouldn't be able to do anything with it, since you are someone else who owns it.

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Yes.

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That's right.

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Can you see the content of the instruction?

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Yes.

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Yes, but we were supposed to try to make sure that it was hidden, yes, because it's a kind of teaching.

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Yes, it's very good teaching, so the students know what we have asked them not to answer, for example.

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Yes.

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Do you have an example of how to use it?

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Or have you thought of using it?

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Yes, often we would ask them to have a Socratic approach to not giving the answer.

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If the students know that they don't give the answer, they don't want to use it.

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So it's a bit like that.

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Or not to go into it, and that's not the point, but it's useful for the students, because then they know how to limit themselves.

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But it's a bit, yes.

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So in terms of purpose, I've divided it a bit.

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Yes.

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And we know that in medicine, they want to use it to find out what is wrong with people.

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How do you feel?

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Do you have a cough?

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I think you have mycoplasma.

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And then the answer comes afterwards.

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So of course he has to give it.

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But it doesn't work when you can read the instructions.

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And this has to share the instructions, so it's relevant for some of the environments that we work with at WHO, who want to use this for learning purposes.

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such as SimSum Bot, which is one of the largest.

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One of the desired conditions is to be able to hide the instruction for the student, so that it becomes a choice.

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The way we have financed the development of GPT-UO is mainly that the environment at the university has applied for funds, and we have developed GPT-UO.

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That is the way we have financed the development of GPT-UO.

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Yes, and SimSomBot wants to use LLM and GPT-UVO as a threshold for training in patient communication, for example.

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Where you should be able to practice important conversations and train to be a clinician.

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And, for example, be able to convey a difficult disease course to a patient.

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So make it a safe environment.

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And there are a lot of things you can't practice properly.

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For example, there was a case about giving death messages.

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And it's very difficult to use students to see and practice that.

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But then there was, among other things, a part where you have to go through this in that order.

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You have to first say who you are, and so on.

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And then we have to test it a little.

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Yes, correct.

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You have focused a lot on instructions over the past year, because there have been so many concrete feedbacks about the use of instructions.

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Yes, and the technology behind it is instructions and RAG, Retriever Augmented Generation.

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where it is about optimizing the output to the model by using authoritative sources, so that you can load an authoritative source that the model takes into account when it gives a response, so that you get better quality of the response, so that you have a knowledge base.

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Yes.

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Did you find out how many users there were?

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Yes, about 37,000.

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37,000.

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That's a lot.

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So it's clear that... But you have assumed that it is also with the other institutions that use... Yes, it is on the opposite side of everything.

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But it is clear that with 37,000 active users, we have to be able to assume that it has been used a lot in the GPD.

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We will see.

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We have received a couple of questions.

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One is asking, do you get better answers when you write in English, or is it more or less the same as Norwegian?

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I think you define it as a good answer.

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In terms of language, it is better.

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And ChatCup is also very...

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But the nuances in the language are better in English.

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So I use English a lot.

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And when it becomes a final product, you can say it in English, it will be translated into English.

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No, into Norwegian, I mean.

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But it's a little subjective, I think.

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But a lot of what I've trained on is also English, so that's that.

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But there are also good Norwegian language models for me.

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Yes, which I would be on, absolutely.

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I use it a little to write in English, because I'm not so fond of it.

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So if I have to write an English email, I write it in Norwegian.

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But what I'm not good at is the Norwegian, both cultural and social things, to understand from a Norwegian context, I'm still on it.

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Yes.

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I see that if you get him to write a whole letter, it will be completely unethical and pompous.

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It's like a different way of writing.

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I write on the way from the university in Oslo.

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I don't know how you do it.

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It could be that you do it.

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Yes, but I just write.

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Let's see.

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Is it relevant to increase the number of signs in the instruction?

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Absolutely.

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We have done that several times.

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So it's not something that's just to play with.

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Follow up on the net, if you want to.

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Then we can look at it.

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We also know that there are some environments, especially in medicine, that use instructions that are longer than what's being supported now.

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So we'll be able to... We'll be able to do it, absolutely.

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We'll be able to do it.

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Then it was a good answer.

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We'll do it.

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We assume it's about 8-7-8000 signs.

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As a work hypothesis.

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Yes, because now there are two.

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Okay, so now we might go up to 10,000 people.

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Yes, we have to keep track of how much it costs and things like that.

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But we have a certain control over the budget.

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It has come up that chatGPT and similar KM models use a lot of energy.

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What kind of relationship do we have to the use of energy in GPT-Union?

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Again, this is about having a reasonable load balance.

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We tune the load so that it should not be too intense.

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We have a certain relationship to that.

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Do you have ethical limitations on what you can ask about?

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Are you allowed to, for example, simulate Adolf Hitler?

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Vi har gått inn i oppsettet.

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Vi har jo ikke noe styring i vår webfronten, men det er jo noen begrensninger hos Microsoft på de modeller vi bruker.

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Der har vi gått og skrudd av alt som finnes av filter, og tatt den mest liberale muligheten vi har.

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Det har vært etter tilbakemeldinger, og på universitetet skal vi på en måte være...

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Microsoft has very nice restrictions, but in the beginning we had moderate, and it was like there was a lot that we stopped.

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It was actually quite annoying, because they stopped strange things.

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You can't do this.

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If you write that you're making a nuclear bomb, you can't do that.

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But there were so many strange things they didn't want...

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They weren't allowed to simulate a child, for example, when they were supposed to use it for training.

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That didn't work.

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They just turned it off.

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We are quite liberal, but other institutions may have done it differently in their background.

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Shall we go one step further?

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Yes, shall we take our time?

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Yes, we can also mention that we have tested local LLMs that run on our infrastructure.

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And then it has been LAMA 3.1 as a proof of concept.

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It is Large Language Model Meta AI.

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It should actually be called LAMAi.

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Yes.

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But it's not that fun, so it's just called Lama.

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But this is probably the best model we've seen so far, in terms of how we can set up our servers.

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It's very interesting.

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And the threshold for GPT-VO is now adapted to be able to choose alternative models.

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So the workaround is that it is possible to set up the largest model for Lama on our computer.

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For those with special needs.

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And if you, for example, have person-sensitive data.

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And research data.

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We see that there are a number of researchers who are skeptical about sending data out of the country, because they may not know the whole value of the data.

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Because even if it is not sensitive data, it may not be the data they want to give away.

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So it runs on our dev-server, so we can just briefly...

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to show that it is possible.

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This is Lama with 405 billion parameters.

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Let's see.

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Let's see if we can choose another model.

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Yes, so it is up and running now.

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That's fun.

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It is still running a bit slow.

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It is in... In the control, I would say.

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But it works.

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Is it better in English?

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Or is there a bigger difference in Norwegian and English?

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The largest Laman 3 model has done very well in performance tests, for example on Hugging Face.

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So it should be very good.

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So we think that if it can be used with up to red data, for example, running on our local infrastructure, it could give Padded Value more value for the service.

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I imagine that we can allow more or less infinite amounts of data.

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That would be a bit in order to be able to load up entire books and Ibsen's collected works.

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Correct, correct.

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Yes, then I think we can jump a little further to how we see the further development of the service in the future.

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So a roadmap.

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One thing we have had a lot of questions about is the loading of files.

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And here we have held back a little.

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This has been something that has been available in Azure before, but we are a bit unsure of how much it will cost.

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We see now that we have great control over the costs.

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Another thing is that files are a bit scary.

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One is the content of the files, but we also have metadata in the files, so we are a bit skeptical about giving away the files and what happens to the files afterwards.

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We are now going to tell you how we have solved this in a rather elegant way, among other things to avoid giving away

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metadata, and metadata are things that are stored on the files, and it's in the brain of those who have edited the files, those who own and arrange the data, and it can be things that are a bit scary, and they probably don't use it either.

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So it was important for us that this was something we didn't deliver to Microsoft.

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Yes, and this is a very exciting technology, with machine vision, or computer vision, among other things,

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You can imagine that a student takes a picture of a whiteboard with a notator and a figure, for example, and transcribes it.

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Or that a researcher loads up a dataset, so you want to get an overview of the content.

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And so on.

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Take a picture of the whiteboard and put it in the repository.

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That's really fun.

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I'm excited to see how it will work.

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I have a demo here.

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This is something we are working on now.

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It will be the focus for the next sprint with development in December.

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This is a visual presentation of a method for gene editing.

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It's called CRISPR-Cas9.

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Is it a Nobel Prize?

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Yes, it might be.

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Now we will see how the machine, with its vision, interprets and processes this.

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Now we upload a file, and this is now a picture.

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We already have this on the test servers, and we think we launched this before Christmas.

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What do you see here?

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Explain the method in a simple way.

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For example, if you see it in the first year, refer to relevant literature.

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That's the prompt, together with the picture.

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But this will be in the next sprint?

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Yes, this is what we're working on in the next sprint.

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On Christmas Eve, approximately.

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You see, we're doing fine with this.

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You can recognize what it is.

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Give a good explanation.

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and references to literature.

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That seems cool.

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It's pretty cool.

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We're looking forward to getting that in place.

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It could also have been a transcribed interview from Autotex, for example, which you upload as a file, and can get it summarized, interpreted.

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You can ask about themes and trends in the interview.

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Does it seem like people talk more if they have short questions?

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Yes.

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GPT-4 Omni with machine vision can also interpret handwritten text, if you load up handwritten text.

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We have set a limit of 100 MB for file.

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Isn't that right?

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Yes, 100 MB.

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So we will calibrate this when we get more experience.

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And then pure text files and CSV format are supported.

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So simple text files and CSV.

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So it's pretty complicated to get this done, but we already have the basics in place.

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Have you used this, Hommel?

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Yes, with experimentation.

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I think it's very good.

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I really liked the notepad block, so I took pictures of the arc and drew on it.

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So I asked him to help me structure it.

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It's very cool.

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We have also tried to take pictures of data on a whiteboard, so we have put up numerical columns and such, and then said, okay, I just want to have this in a table, and then I want to have it processed.

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Make a code to make this border section, you have to think on the board.

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No.

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So, maybe we can just show a little bit of how we have thought the architecture.

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We have a... And I'm going back to the...

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We talked about how we are a bit afraid of metadata, among other things, and that we are also a bit afraid of the cost picture if we only have a file that is sent back and forth to Azure with 100 megabytes, and that it is an ineffective way.

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So can Tor maybe tell us about the architecture here?

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I can do that.

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This is what we are talking about when we refer to Retrieval Augmented Generation.

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What we do is that the user loads up a source, for example a picture, a file, something like that, and then we augment, that is, we fill out the prompt to the user with what it has loaded up to improve the generation.

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Because Azure is open to our model,

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doesn't have access to the internet or anything like that, and the prompt size is limited, so we have to limit what it gets in, or we have to choose what it should get in, and that's what retrieval augmentation is all about.

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So what happens is that the user loads up a file, and since it is a picture, we send it to, in this case, we probably use

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OpenAI's embeddings through Azure, which are multi-modal and which can take in the file.

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We send it in as a base 64 string, I mean.

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If there is text, we can chunk it up.

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We don't send the file, is that what you're saying?

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We don't send the file, we just send the content in it.

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So we don't send, for example, metadata, as you say.

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We send a string.

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What is that?

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We send a string.

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It represents the file, the content of the file.

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And what happens then is that we run it through one of these embedding models and get a vector.

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And we could basically run it on a local model and get a similar vector.

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Is the vector on our own software, or is it from Azure?

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Today we use it on Azure, just like we use other chats and code computations and such.

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But there is nothing technical other than maybe capacity that makes us be able to use it on our own.

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For example, with a LANA embedding or another multimodal embedding.

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Then we get a vector.

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This vector is important, because we store it in a database, along with the actual content.

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When the user asks about something later, this question is also transferred to a vector of the same type of embedding.

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We can use this vector to search in our database for vectors that are close to what the user is asking about.

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These embeddings, these vectors,

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They actually concentrate the meaning in the content in a way that the model understands.

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And then we can get content that looks like what the user is asking for.

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And then at the end, when we ask the model, or ask it to complete the chat completion, we put a V. For example, the user asked with

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And based on vector search in our database, we have these results.

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Incorporate it in your answer.

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Use it as safe information.

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We know this from before.

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Take care of it when you make your chat.

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So in a way, it works exactly the same way as if you had used an instruction, or if you had pasted the data in the same way.

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But by loading up, and then we keep the files, these vectors and content files, on our infrastructure.

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We use S3 today, I think, which is locally hosted.

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So you can, for example, load up a file and then use it across conversations, in principle.

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And you can use, you can pick up different information from different files through a chat by

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So that means that if they made a text file of 100 megabytes, or 99.9, then not all the data will be sent to them?

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That's right.

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We can decide how much we want to chunk up the file itself, but then you only send what is useful from that file.

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And that's how it will work.

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So then we have to first...

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To make it work, we have to process the file first.

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We have to make the embedding, so that after loading the file, it would take a short time, not very long.

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We have tested it with an open source biology book on a thousand pages, and it didn't take a long time, but at least a few minutes.

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You feel you've gone through all that, and you feel it would be available for you to search for.

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This gives a lot of possibilities.

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It's very exciting technology.

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I have a question.

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Would it be possible to, for example, upload a video and get information about what it contains?

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Right.

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In theory, it could work, but it depends on, first of all, that the video is within the limits we set, and that the embedding we use solves the video.

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So today there are quite a few multi-modal embeddings that can both take in image data, PDFs, files, text and so on.

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But there are probably some who also take video, but there are not so many of them yet.

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But over time, it could work.

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VideoEye has... The answer is actually yes, it can work.

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It will probably work.

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It could work.

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So you can first make the film, and then we can automatically make the book afterwards.

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And then the question is, can you also search in your chat history?

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That could also be possible.

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Then we have to process, go through all the chats and vectorize them in the same way, but that could be possible.

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Do we have any plans to do that?

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That is probably a bit...

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At any given time.

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Yes, at any given time, we look at that type of roulette.

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It's very good.

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This was awesome.

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I can't help myself.

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So, we can move on and say something about another feature that has been much wanted, especially by students, and that is rendering of mathematical formulas.

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We get almost daily questions from students, because they want to see the forms visually, instead of expressing them in latex syntax.

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Because some have difficulty reading it.

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So it works already.

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Let's see.

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It's out on GPTV, right?

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Yes, it's out.

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For the time being, you have to give an introductory prompt so that it will work, but we will add it as a system prompt so that the users do not have to ask about it every time.

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Let's see, we can start a new conversation.

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So I choose the instruction, and I have already put in the introductory prompt here.

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Let's see.

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So, and here we have also listened to the users.

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They didn't just get dark mode, they get formulas too.

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We work user-centric, so we are very happy with that type of feedback.

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Let's see.

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Then we can ask them, for example, if you can...

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One unsolved... Or one unsolved, shall we say.

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Mathematical... Theoremic... Let's see.

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Yes.

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Is that the new part?

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That part is the new one.

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So the alternative was that this came up in the latex syntax.

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Can you glue it in?

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Yes.

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Show me more.

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But can you glue in the formula O and then ask what the answer is?

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I think so.

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Oh, there's a little problem this morning.

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So.

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Could you tell us about some of the experiences you've had working in this field?

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Yes, there are a lot of exciting things going on.

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I also work with different disciplines, and it depends on what you do.

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can use it and how you can use it, and also how good these models are to give good answers.

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Now we are also in KI on the other side, if you can take a look at the page that is made.

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What is KI on the other side?

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It is a network that is on the other side of VIO, where there is both study administrative and technical, but also LINK, which also

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where you try to see how the challenge with how KI affects and is.

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If you go a little higher, then it is first, if you know how to use it as a student, then the students can go in there and see how they can use it and what their position is, and then a little further down, if you go a little further down, then it is how you can use KI as a teacher, and that is very interesting, and then there are questions around

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Ethics and social responsibility is a bit around this, and also some legal guidance on how to use it.

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And the idea is also a bit in collaboration with KI på Tvers, and Link is also, we have plans to have workshops around the institutes here on how to use it.

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And you are involved in this network as both researcher and journalist?

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Yes.

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You mentioned that there are a number of funds that the project has applied for, from UiO Central, from SKIT, to work and incorporate AI into business training, and there is a lot going on.

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and research and try to find new ways to use it.

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And then it will come both in cooperation with you, but also with you in the development of UiO's GPT.

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Absolutely.

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And that's the advantage of having control over this GPT-VO and being able to adapt it.

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I can tell you about another project that also had means and that we have come to do.

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And that was at the economy department with us.

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They have tested out and made their adapted tenant, that's what it's called in Azure, by loading data to it.

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Vi har jo åpnet opp for at ansatte på universitetet kan få tilgang rett i Azure med å fylle ut et skjema, så gir vi dem tilgang til våre, som har sagt at det er de

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I think I have said that they can use it for a couple of thousand kroner, and if they use more than that, they get a discount.

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And there we have a 20-30 employee who has tested this out.

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And there you can, among other things, load up data and train your own tenant in Azure.

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And at the economic department at UiO, they have done this with documentation for our economic system, which they have a desire to get a number of support tenants for.

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And this was someone who had made a little frontend on his data machine, and then someone came and tested it on his data machine, and then they wondered, what am I supposed to do to get this on the web?

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Then he said, if you want to have it on the web, then it has to be in GPT-UIO.

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Then we agreed, we made an agreement with them, that this

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It will be a way for them to go in and choose the economy chatbot, which is specialised in creating an economy system, and know all accounts, and that they will see if this will get a number of support messages.

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And we have also said that when we do this, we make it for scaling.

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That means that everyone can get their own special trained chatbot.

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And in the first document, it's in Azure, we offer this, that you can train it up there.

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I think he trained this one for about 10,000 kroner, so it wasn't half as expensive.

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He had made a lot of documentation and such.

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But of course we want to have this on local GPUs and on our supercomputers.

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So that has to be one of the first things.

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And then we can imagine that we train one per subject.

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Then we can give the society, folks, I now have a special model.

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Here you will be able to get tasks that fit, you can just ask for it, and so on.

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It's not that far away, and it's a little fun to see that this can happen.

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It will come soon that we can connect to special pentamodels.

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We'll see how it goes on GPTV, but I'm not saying that everyone should get this.

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a bit boring economy chatbot in the face, because there are 39,000 users and perhaps not more than a few hundred who want to use it.

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So there are several good things that are happening in the future.

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One of them is alternative login to GPT-VO for institutions that do not have FIDE.

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We have received a number of requests for that.

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It will be possible to log in with EduCloud after the plan.

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EdoCloud is our research solution, where there is a user database, among other things, that can easily make users.

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We have this other KI service called Autotext, which uses transcription, which runs whisper models locally.

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There are quite a few who have bought access to it.

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It was only available for those with FADE, but there were so many who wanted to have it.

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We have almost 60 institutions that have bought it.

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And there we have used EduCloud, so they can control their own users if they want that instead.

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So now we can then add GPT-UIO to departments, among other things, who want to use it.

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Because it's so problematic that when you write in data, you don't know where they end up.

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You don't know how long they will be made.

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And I look forward to being able to offer this to everyone in Norway who wants to have this in use.

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And this is actually a cheap service, but you pay for the use yourself directly through Microsoft.

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So it is also the research environment in the health sector, among other things in hospitals, who have wanted an alternative application to take the Epitego in use?

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That is something that will come.

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It is estimated to come early next year, in January.

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And the organization of the conversation history, something that we want to further develop.

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To get a refresh of the design on it, for example, to be able to delete several messages at the same time.

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Or several conversations.

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We are also following up on new models from OpenAI and Google Gemini.

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So we want to be able to offer the best, newest models.

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Hvordan går de som har kjøpt UiO GPT av oss frem for å få tilgang til nye modeller og ny funktionalitet?

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Yes, we have taken some self-criticism for that, that we have not informed our other customers well enough about how we have... GPCVO has been much better than many other models, because they have not made any changes in Azure.

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So when we make changes in our Azure setup, we will send an explanation to all our customers about what we recommend now.

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We recommend Merck tokens, we recommend this model.

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So we should be a little smarter to inform about it, because those who use GPT-VO must have someone who has admin in Azure for that institution.

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And the latest model for OpenAI that is being developed now, Orion, is also very interesting, because it has the opportunity to

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to think through before it gives an answer.

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It can reason over more complex tasks before it answers.

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I know many people who can't do that, think before they speak.

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That means it can solve more difficult tasks within science and technology.

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and math, and coding.

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So that's what we're looking forward to, to be able to try the latest models.

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Are there any other questions that are good to ask here?

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Someone asked if there will be a phone app?

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Yes, we are responsive here, so you can use it on a smart phone.

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It's not a native app, it's a...

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Yes.

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The website.

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So yes, we can say that.

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Possibly.

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We'll have to see if it has... I was wondering if you could talk directly into PPTVO.

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It might work differently on a mobile phone if you press... You can do it on the mobile app.

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You can talk to it.

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And then you can talk back.

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So you can...

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And we absolutely do not exclude... In any case, everything that this person says in Norwegian.

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So they suddenly created an app for that.

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It's very difficult to tell a five-year-old, so they do it.

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We have a universal challenge, and we want to get even better at it.

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So being able to offer speech, the text and the other way around, can be interesting.

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Will we be able to offer API access to the local models?

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Yes, I think we will.

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We would like to offer these models.

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We hope we will.

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We now run local models for some research projects in EduCloud, this research system that we have here at the university.

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But then we only run for that one project.

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So there is only one person who can use it when he logs in and uses resources on it.

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So we have some testing around it, and that's a little fun.

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We have, among other things, some at HF who had

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images of hieroglyphs or helleristings, some kind of old script language that they now manage to interpret in a completely new way.

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And this is also data that is

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Secret, in the sense that it has never been transcribed before, and we would not give this gold.

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The research data we would not give to cloud solutions.

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First of all, it would have been expensive to do it in Eschøl, because they had a 10,000 photo of a mass script, which they then interpreted, and they had managed to do it, and now we help them to do it in our solution with their own GPT model.

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So that is also a bit of a direct result.

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Can you tell us a little bit about how external institutions that want to take advantage of MTU go about it?

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The prerequisite is that you have to have an agreement with Microsoft, with Azure.

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I think everyone in Norway has ended up having that.

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It's just that there are very few who use it that much.

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Because you also have to know someone who has access to doing the development of the keys that you have to do with us.

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In addition, it is the easiest for those with FADA, because then you can turn on access to a whole institution.

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We have been very clear about the fact that we should not differentiate between employees and students here at the university.

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Everyone should get the same access.

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But now it is possible to control users more one by one by getting an educated user database for those who do not have FADA.

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And then you just have to go to our website, and there is information about how to contact us, and then we can set this up for you.

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Yes, and we see this as a joint service in the sector, more as a place investment.

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It is also important to note that we are not a commercial actor, but we want to cover sales costs.

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Yes, we guarantee that when we sell this one today, we have no benefit from it.

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But we hope that it can cover some of the development that we expect to do in the future.

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And it can also come with means of delivery, as they do at WHO, to further develop the GPT-V.

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So if other research environments outside of WHO want to do things like what I've talked about, or other adaptations, now we're going to do a lot around instructions for a specific project at WHO that has funding.

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But we also have the opportunity to do this for external uses of the GPT-V.

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BEI has been part of the funding for the release of other institutions, so they were one of the first in the solution.

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And the premise is that we can give it back to others who wish for this.

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Yes, now the time is approaching 10.57,

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En god time.

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Vi håper at folk har hatt nytta av dette, og takk til alle som har vært her.

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Nå tror jeg rett og slett bare vi sier...

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I think from my point of view, it is very interesting if someone is thinking about pedagogical use or judo, then it is just to make contact.

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You write OMID between the words ifi in Google, then you come straight to OMID.

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Then you come straight to the other, right?

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So it is very positive to take both from the EU and also externally, where we can contribute to a lift in terms of the knowledge and use of AI.

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I think we'll say the same thing, and then we'll say thank you.

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Thank you.

